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	Comments on: IE 10 trailing behind Chrome 23 and Firefox 17	</title>
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		By: Daniel Arendt		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Arendt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 09:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, I don&#039;t enjoy slamming Microsoft or folks like Mr. Dunning (or anyone else) because I don&#039;t like bad news or its bearers. If one can take the word of, say, Microsoft 2012 certified partner &quot;Soluto&quot;, right now about 500 million active licenses for Windows 7 are operative; when someone like Mr. Dunning points out such tiny usage of IE 9 or 10, as someone who has used both (in addition to firewalls/AV such as get OPSWAT certs) with ZERO successful exploit/virus penetrations, I cannot for the life of me understand why so many people DON&#039;T want 9 or 10. All I can suggest is theory that in IE you have to select InPrivate browsing, Active X filtering ( a whole ticking under  ToolsSafety), keep Windows updated and have a good real-time AV to have at least as good a browsing experience as Chrome and Firefox boast...but the latter are often presented as having same/better speed plus total set-and-forget security via inbuilts/extensions; when something goes wrong, just blame Windows architectures where user-unattended IE at least still sits as default browser for silent install/other problems leaking through other browsers/AV.

In sum, Mr. Dunning has presented incredible numbers re IE, and that should open the door to discussing why so many avoid obviously competent Microsoft browsers; thank you for letting me offer my own thoughts on this enigmatic circumstance.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I don&#8217;t enjoy slamming Microsoft or folks like Mr. Dunning (or anyone else) because I don&#8217;t like bad news or its bearers. If one can take the word of, say, Microsoft 2012 certified partner &#8220;Soluto&#8221;, right now about 500 million active licenses for Windows 7 are operative; when someone like Mr. Dunning points out such tiny usage of IE 9 or 10, as someone who has used both (in addition to firewalls/AV such as get OPSWAT certs) with ZERO successful exploit/virus penetrations, I cannot for the life of me understand why so many people DON&#8217;T want 9 or 10. All I can suggest is theory that in IE you have to select InPrivate browsing, Active X filtering ( a whole ticking under  ToolsSafety), keep Windows updated and have a good real-time AV to have at least as good a browsing experience as Chrome and Firefox boast&#8230;but the latter are often presented as having same/better speed plus total set-and-forget security via inbuilts/extensions; when something goes wrong, just blame Windows architectures where user-unattended IE at least still sits as default browser for silent install/other problems leaking through other browsers/AV.</p>
<p>In sum, Mr. Dunning has presented incredible numbers re IE, and that should open the door to discussing why so many avoid obviously competent Microsoft browsers; thank you for letting me offer my own thoughts on this enigmatic circumstance.</p>
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		By: Anand Khanse		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anand Khanse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 04:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[True, you have to remember that IE10 is being currently used only on Windows 8 which is a new OS, but that is not the case for the other browsers... ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, you have to remember that IE10 is being currently used only on Windows 8 which is a new OS, but that is not the case for the other browsers&#8230; </p>
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		By: Gregg L. DesElms		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gregg L. DesElms]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 01:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The headline, here, is kinda&#039; almost misleading; and so, in a way, is the whole point of the article.  Shame on this website for allowing it.

I&#039;m no huge fan of IE anymore.  Anyone who, as I have, gets serious about an Android phone quickly learns to move over to Chrome (or, in my case, the Iron Portable Browser, which is a Chrome clone, but without all the privacy violations) in order to fully avail oneself of all the Android coolness.  So I&#039;m no IE apologist...

...but, c&#039;mon, did the author of the story-in-chief, here, fail the part of elementary school where he was supposed to have learned about categorization?  This article&#039;s headline compares one, so-new-that-almost-no-one&#039;s-using-it-yet version of IE against all other browsers; and completely ignores -- at least at first -- that when said new IE version&#039;s market share is added to the other three IE versions in use, IE still commands way over half of the browser market.

Of course, I realize that that&#039;s not as impressive as things, for IE, once were, back when it owned WAY more of the market than it now does.  And so, if that&#039;s what the author, here, really had in mind, then maybe that&#039;s what he should have written about.

FROM THE ARTICLE:  &quot;First, this morning Net application report suggested Windows Phones are still way behind Android and Apple’s iOS and now the website’s  preliminary data from December shows the company’s proprietary browser -Internet Explorer 10 is only being used by a handful of PC users worldwide.&quot; 

Really?  Are you KIDDIN&#039; me?  C&#039;mon!  Did anyone really expect the Windows 8 phone, so soon after release, to have gotten even CLOSE to caught-up with either iOS or Android phones?  Or IE10 to have made any significant headway yet, given that the only operating system on which it&#039;s intended to run was only released a couple months ago, and will take many months more to reach anywhere near its intended market penetration? 

You wanna&#039; write sometning useful?  Write, late next fall, how the Windows 8 phone&#039;s acceptance, after however many months it will have by-then been out, compares with either or both of the iOS phones&#039; and/or Android phones&#039; acceptance after the same amount of time in their respective life cycles.

Write, in any case, about things that actually both tell us something, and which actually matter, will ya&#039;?  In the meantime, go read a book on journalism and learn how to recognize what is and isn&#039;t newsworthy.

Geez. [shakes head in disbelief]


_____________________________
Gregg L. DesElms
Napa, California USA
gregg at greggdeselms dot com]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The headline, here, is kinda&#8217; almost misleading; and so, in a way, is the whole point of the article.  Shame on this website for allowing it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m no huge fan of IE anymore.  Anyone who, as I have, gets serious about an Android phone quickly learns to move over to Chrome (or, in my case, the Iron Portable Browser, which is a Chrome clone, but without all the privacy violations) in order to fully avail oneself of all the Android coolness.  So I&#8217;m no IE apologist&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;but, c&#8217;mon, did the author of the story-in-chief, here, fail the part of elementary school where he was supposed to have learned about categorization?  This article&#8217;s headline compares one, so-new-that-almost-no-one&#8217;s-using-it-yet version of IE against all other browsers; and completely ignores &#8212; at least at first &#8212; that when said new IE version&#8217;s market share is added to the other three IE versions in use, IE still commands way over half of the browser market.</p>
<p>Of course, I realize that that&#8217;s not as impressive as things, for IE, once were, back when it owned WAY more of the market than it now does.  And so, if that&#8217;s what the author, here, really had in mind, then maybe that&#8217;s what he should have written about.</p>
<p>FROM THE ARTICLE:  &#8220;First, this morning Net application report suggested Windows Phones are still way behind Android and Apple’s iOS and now the website’s  preliminary data from December shows the company’s proprietary browser -Internet Explorer 10 is only being used by a handful of PC users worldwide.&#8221; </p>
<p>Really?  Are you KIDDIN&#8217; me?  C&#8217;mon!  Did anyone really expect the Windows 8 phone, so soon after release, to have gotten even CLOSE to caught-up with either iOS or Android phones?  Or IE10 to have made any significant headway yet, given that the only operating system on which it&#8217;s intended to run was only released a couple months ago, and will take many months more to reach anywhere near its intended market penetration? </p>
<p>You wanna&#8217; write sometning useful?  Write, late next fall, how the Windows 8 phone&#8217;s acceptance, after however many months it will have by-then been out, compares with either or both of the iOS phones&#8217; and/or Android phones&#8217; acceptance after the same amount of time in their respective life cycles.</p>
<p>Write, in any case, about things that actually both tell us something, and which actually matter, will ya&#8217;?  In the meantime, go read a book on journalism and learn how to recognize what is and isn&#8217;t newsworthy.</p>
<p>Geez. [shakes head in disbelief]</p>
<p>_____________________________<br />
Gregg L. DesElms<br />
Napa, California USA<br />
gregg at greggdeselms dot com</p>
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		By: Robert Nielsen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Nielsen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 01:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This wouldn&#039;t have anything to do with the fact that Windows 8 is barely being adapted, and IE10 is still a *PREVIEW* for Windows 7, would it??  (/sarcasm)

:)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This wouldn&#8217;t have anything to do with the fact that Windows 8 is barely being adapted, and IE10 is still a *PREVIEW* for Windows 7, would it??  (/sarcasm)</p>
<p>🙂</p>
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